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[NOTE: This is a typed tape transcript and has not been edited or published, as of August 1992. It is for reference use only. The interviewer's remarks have been omitted where not relevant to Osho's words]
INTERVIEW WITH SUNDAY TIMES, LONDON, UK
Q: CAN I BEGIN BY ASKING YOU ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW? IS THIS THE BEGINNING OF ANOTHER COMMUNE?
A: It's always difficult for me to say anything about the future. I have lived my whole life moment to moment without any planning, without ever thinking of the morrow. So something must be beginning but I cannot say what it is.
Q: BUT I'VE READ REPORTS BHAGWANJI THAT YOU'RE LOOKING OR DISCIPLES OR YOUR FOLLOWERS ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING (INAUDIBLE).
A: Yes. My friends are looking because they are not living moment to moment. Nobody listens me.
Q: SEEMS TO ME THAT A GREAT MANY PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOU.
A: No. They hear me but listening is very difficult.
Q: WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE DIFFERENCE IS?
A: Everybody who has normal ears can hear but listening needs something more than ears. It needs a silent mind behind it.
Listening means you are not interfering in any way, not interpreting, not saying yes, not saying no, neither believing it nor disbelieving it. Simply listening the way mirror reflects. Only out of such listening, understanding arises.
Understanding is not a belief. The person who only hears may start believing in it but believing is not understanding. It is blind.
Q: DOESN'T UNDERSTANDING LEAD TO BELIEF(*)?
A: No. Understanding is yours. You may have listened to me, you may have listened to the sound of the running water, you may have listened to thousands of things, but understanding is yours, belief you simply heard and borrowed it without bothering even to listen what you are believing in.
The world is full of believers but the world is not full of understanding.
Q: WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOURSELF AS A MAN WHO HAS BELIEFS?
A: I don't have any belief and I am against all beliefs. Belief as such is poison.
Q: DID YOU HAVE ANY BELIEF IN AMERICA WHEN YOU WENT THERE?
A: No. I have never had any belief
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