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was driving a taxi, he had become a taxi-driver. That's how I met him -- at the railway station, because I had to get down there and go to a hotel and wait at least eight hours; then my next train would come which would take me to the place where I was going.
So in Lucknow I had no work and I had not informed anybody, so I could just rest eight hours. By chance I called the taxi and he came. I said, "What! You are driving a taxi."
He said, "It is all your doing."
I said, "But I think it is perfectly logical: from car to car, and from the back seat to the front seat. This is what evolution is! And at that time you were even afraid to sit down; now you are driving. You keep going: soon you will be a pilot and someday I will meet you in the air."
He said, "Don't joke with me. I have been so angry with you, but seeing you all my anger has gone -- you are such a nice person. But why did you do that to me?"
I said, "I took you out of that bondage; now you can go to the cinema, you can smoke cigarettes. You can do everything that you want."
"I am. Yes, that is true," he said, "that you have made me free. I was a slave of those people; I could not even move without their permission. Now I don't care a bit about anybody; I earn my living and I live the way I want to live. If you could help all the other Jaina monks also ...."
I said, "I try my best but the followers are always surrounding them, protecting them, insisting that they should not talk with me. They say `Even talk is dangerous because this man may put some idea in your mind.'"
All the religions are afraid of thinking, afraid of raising questions, afraid of doubt, afraid of disobedience, and stuck centuries back -- for the simple reason that these things were not available then. Those people who were making those rules had no idea what the future was going to be.
Hence all the religions are agreed that man is continuously falling because he is not following the scriptures, not following the doctrines, not following the messiahs, the prophets. But I don't see that man is falling. In fact man's sensitivity has grown.
His intelligence has grown,
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