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crows in the morning you will have denied me three times."

And that's how it happened. He was caught, the people of the priests took hold of him -- they had found a stranger amongst them. They asked him, "Who are you? Are you with this madman who thinks he is the son of God?"

He said, "No, I don't know who this man is. I am a stranger in this city. And seeing the light" -- because they were all carrying torches -- "I have just followed to find some place. I don't know the city and its whereabouts."

And Jesus had said that time, "Remember that the cock has not crowed yet." And this happened three times. Before the first cock crowed to signal the morning, the disciple had denied him three times, saying that he did not know this man at all. These cowards, they had no idea.... But Jesus, seeing the situation on the cross, hanging for six hours, must have considered the whole situation. He escaped from Jerusalem. He lived to the age of one hundred and twelve years in Kashmir.

So there is no question of resurrection, because in the first place the crucifixion did not materialize. And in Kashmir, as I told you, there is a grave of Jesus by the side of the grave of Moses. No Christian bothers... because that grave will endanger your belief in resurrection. On the grave it is written clearly -- of course Jesus is not the name mentioned there, because Jesus is the Greek translation of Joshua; Joshua is his real name -- that, "Joshua came here, lived here to the ripe age of one hundred and twelve years, died here. And in his memory we have changed the name of the place." The village where the graves are is called Pahalgam; it means the village of the shepherd.

But he remained silent. Only one disciple, Thomas, had followed him there; he was his most beloved disciple. He sent Thomas to South India, the other corner from Kashmir. And you will be surprised to know that Indian Christianity is the oldest Christianity in the world. The Vatican is not that old. The popes came into existence after Jesus' so-called crucifixion had happened -- three hundred years afterwards. But Thomas started working in South India, and must have been the only authentic

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