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the body is doing everything. The mind stops. And in those gaps for the First time you will have a taste of reality, something of the beyond. And it is so catching, so magic and miraculous, that once you have those gaps, you desire them more and more. They rejuvenate you. they revitalise you. They give you a new elan, a new life.
By and by a comparison arises in you. You see that mind can give you a few glimpses but cannot give you reality. But this is possible only when reality has been tasted -- then only comparison is possible.
Once you see the moon in the sky, then you see that the lake and the mirrored moons are just beautiful reflections. You can go on enjoying them, but now the illusion is broken.
[A sannyasin asks about going up and down. Sometimes I don't know what is mind, what is feeling... where I am.]
Good, let it go up and down. You remain separate and just watch it. It is not you who is going up and down -- it is the mind. You are separate.
... Feeling, thinking, everything, is mind. You are just the witness who is seeing all these things.
For example you see that the mind is going up, or that it is going down -- the seer is you. That which is seen is not you. You follow me? The object -- that which you see -- is not you. The one who is seeing the object -- the subject -- is you.
You are looking at me. You are the seer, I am the seen -- I am not you. You look at the hand. The hand is the object, and you are the seer -- you are not the hand. You look inside and a thought arises, a feeling comes -- that is not you.
Go on remembering that you are the pure seer, and by and by all these ups and downs will disappear, and you will be left alone. Just don't be identified.
[A visitor said his meditation is interrupted because he travels a lot.]
Something can be found . . . because any meditation that is disturbed again and again is not good. Something is needed that can be done in spite of your travelling, as a continuity...
[The visitor adds: I understand the idea of meditating all the time, but... ]
No, not all the time -- no need to do it all the time. A few times in the
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