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and it can become very egoistic and think that it has done the painting. It can forget the hand that is behind it, And that's what happens when there is too much ego: we go on forgetting the real hand that is behind us!
[The new sannyasin says he has done here, and in England, Primal and Encounter.]
Mm mm. But nothing seems to have helped you....
[The sannyasin answers: I don't agree.]
Mm mm. That is perfectly good -- there is no need to agree you can disagree. If you disagree then there is no problem why be here? If you agree, I can work on you; if you don't agree then there is no problem, you can go. If you think it has helped, perfectly good -- I'm very happy! But not agreeing with me Is not going to help you. It is as if a man comes and says to the doctor 'I am perfectly healthy'. It is perfectly okay! I was going to suggest some groups but I will not. You can choose whatsoever groups you feel like doing and whatsoever you feel like doing here.
With me agreement is a must, so it is not a question of whether you agree or disagree with me. Otherwise it is perfectly good. I am not in any trouble and I am not hankering to help you. If you need my help it is available. If you feel like doing some groups, you can do; if you feel like doing some meditations you can do. But if you feel like agreeing with me, then I will suggest things to do, otherwise not. That's your choice, mm ?
That's what I was feeling from the very beginning: the ego is very much there. You didn't even like the name!
[The sannyasin replies: No.]
Mm, that I know... that I know. And I think you have taken sannyas wrongly. You should not have taken it. And it is still not too late; you can give it back. Because I don't see why you decided to become a sannyasin. I don't say no to anybody -- I am always ready to give whatsoever you ask -- but I don't feel that it is going to help you in any way, because your basic attitude is not that of surrender... and sannyas is surrender.
I have given you that name knowingly, and when I was talking about the name you were continuously disagreeing with it. You w ere not happy. The very idea was hurting
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