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materialist communism, Joseph Stalin was able to kill thirty million people of his own land without any trouble, without a single night feeling any disturbance in his mind about what he was doing. He tortured more men than any other man in the whole of history.
It was possible for Adolf Hitler to destroy six million Jews in Germany and altogether nearabout forty million people in the second world war.... A materialist conception about man is going to be destructive, because it is coming out of a blind search.
Mind can also be used as a ladder going downwards; that's how the psychologist uses it. From consciousness to sub-consciousness, from sub-consciousness to unconsciousness, from unconsciousness to collective unconsciousness... they have yet reached only so far. One rung of the ladder is still to be reached -- they will certainly reach it, they are groping towards it -- and that will be the final conclusion of all our psychological in-depth research.
The last rung of the ladder will be the cosmic unconsciousness, utter darkness -- a darkness that knows no dawn. Psychology is moving into the darker chambers of human beings; it is making man more and more at ease with his animality. Those dark chambers belong to his animal past. This is not the right use of the mind either.
There is one more use, and that is the way the mystic uses the mind. It is just the very diametrically opposite dimension of the psychologist -- the ladder going upwards. From our so-called consciousness, which is very thin, almost negligible... just scratch it a little bit and it will disappear and your unconsciousness arises.
In the East this consciousness is called only the so-called consciousness. It is so thin, skin-thin, that it has no bearing on our spiritual growth. If you move upwards, you reach for the first time to the authentic consciousness that comes through meditation, awareness, alertness, witnessing. Your consciousness becomes a tremendous force. Your whole life starts revolving around your consciousness. It is no more possible for anyone to drag you into unconscious worlds, no more possible for anybody to drag you backwards into the animal
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