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But the fact is that I am the poorest man in the world. Even beggars have their account.
So don't be worried. Just take a jump. And next time when you come here, bring your loving wife!
Q:* THANK YOU!
The Last Testament, Vol 2
Chapter #2
Chapter title: None
22 August 1985 pm in Jesus Grove
Archive code: 8508225
ShortTitle: LAST202
Audio: Yes
Video: Yes
Length: 109 mins
[NOTE: This is a typed tape transcript and has not been edited or published, as of August 1992. It is for reference use only. The interviewer's remarks have been omitted where not relevant to Osho's words]
INTERVIEW WITH QUESTLINE -- CJOR RADIO, VANCOUVER, CANADA
QUESTION:* THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE NEW AGE, AQUARIAN AGE, YOU TALK ABOUT A NEW MAN. I HEARD, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A MERGING OF ZORBA AND BUDDHA, AN ALIGNING OF THE SPIRITUAL AND THE MATERIAL. CAN YOU PLEASE DEFINE ENLIGHTENMENT?
A:* It simply means becoming aware of yourself. Ordinarily, a man is awake to everything around him, but is not aware who is awake and aware of all the things around. So we remain on the periphery of life and the center remains in darkness. To bring light to that center, consciousness to that center is what enlightenment is.
It is just being absolutely centered in yourself, focusing all your consciousness upon yourself as if nothing else exists, only you are.
Q:* YOUR OWN ENLIGHTENMENT CAME AT THE AGE OF TWENTY-ONE?
A:* Right.
Q:* AND YOU LIKENED IT TO AN ATOMIC EXPLOSION, YOU SAID IT WAS LIKE A LIGHT THAT NEVER LEFT YOU. HOW WOULD YOUR PERCEPTION THEN, BEING ENLIGHTENED, DIFFER FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT AWAKENED TO THEIR OWN ENLIGHTENMENT?
A:* Just the same way as a person is asleep. How are you going to define the difference between the person asleep and the person who is awake? The person asleep is dreaming or, not dreaming, but one thing is certain -- he is not aware that he is asleep.
The man who is awake, whatever he is doing, one thing is certain, he is aware that he is awake. This is the only difference on the spiritual level, too. Spiritually
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