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for their sick... They have moved from Hinduism or from other religions to Christianity -- this is not a religious conversion.
What was hurting them very much was that I had taken out the cream -- not the beggars, not the orphans, but the best minds, the youngest people, the best educated, the most intelligent. I have taken them out of their fold, and I have not put them into another fold. I have simply taken them out of one prison and have left them free, I have not put them into another prison. From Christianity into Hinduism, or from Christianity to Mohammedanism -- that is simply a changing of jails.
This was the problem for the fundamentalist Christians. Ronald Reagan himself is a fanatic, fundamentalist Christian. And if this fire becomes bigger... and they have no means to prevent it, because they had no arguments against me. I have all the arguments against them.
First they tried legally to destroy the commune and throw me out of America. For four years I was in America without any visa. I had been telling them, "You can say yes; you can say no," but they were afraid, because if they said no, I might go to court. Then it would go beyond their hands and become a legal case.
On what grounds were they saying no to me? They had no grounds to say no to me, so they would not say it. And they could not say yes, because the pressure from above was not to say yes. So for four years they were committing the crime of keeping a person in the country without any visa. My application was with them, and they would not answer it.
They tried all kinds of legal ways, but we were winning cases against the government. Then they became desperate. It seemed legally they could not win. So something had to be done, and had to be done quickly before we became deeply rooted in their soil. So this was their desperate effort: they arrested me without any arrest warrant. They arrested me without showing any reason why they were arresting me. They had none. They did not allow me my basic right to call my attorney. They did everything illegal.
And from Charlotte, where they arrested me, Oregon is not more than six or eight hours' distance. It
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