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and allowing me to cut whatsoever I want to cut. It is painful. It is very, very painful, because this surgery cannot be done in your unconsciousness -- I have to do it while you are conscious. I cannot give you morphia, I cannot use chloroform; rather, on the contrary, I give you meditations to become more alert and more aware. This is a different type of surgery, a totally different type of surgery: your awareness is needed. You have to be completely a witness so that I can cut that part which is not in fact you but with which you have become identified -- so I can show you a way where you can feel your innermost, your authentic being. It was before you were born. It is there before you die. It will be there after you are dead.

Existence goes on living in many, many forms. You need help so that you can feel the formless hidden behind the form. You are attached to the form, your eyes are closed with the form, and a great surgery is needed.

Says this Sufi saying:

THE GIFT COMES AFTER THIS `DEATH' AND NOT BEFORE. AND EVEN THIS `DEATH' IS NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT HELP.

And help is possible if you surrender.

In fact, if you surrender, the very death we are talking about becomes possible. Surrender is like death -- that's why you are so afraid of surrendering. You try to protect yourself. You try to snatch something from me, remaining yourself -- that is not possible.

You must die. Only then can something be given to you. The gift is ready, already packed, your name written on it -- but you are not ready.

Nothing can you have from me until you die.

Until You Die

Chapter #2

Chapter title: Judge Ye Not

12 April 1975 am in Buddha Hall

Archive code: 7504120

ShortTitle: UNTIL02

Audio: Yes

Video: No

Length: 91 mins

A YOUNG MAN CAME TO DHUN-NUN AND SAID THAT THE SUFIS WERE WRONG, AND MANY ANOTHER THING BESIDES.

THE EGYPTIAN REMOVED A RING FROM HIS FINGER AND HANDED IT TO HIM. `TAKE THIS TO THE MARKET STALLHOLDERS OVER THERE AND SEE WHETHER YOU CAN GET A GOLD PIECE FOR IT,' HE SAID.

NOBODY AMONG THE MARKET PEOPLE OFFERED MORE THAN A SINGLE

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